Thats what I am saying, there would be a lot who would quit or stop. And not saying every one does it on a regular basis, but do it every once in a while and a lot just with weed. So if every county in SWVA (probably a lot worse up state) tested every once in awhile, then I'd say there'd be quite a few in trouble.
No u said that if they tested then there would not be enough players left to field a team which i proved u wrong. Go ahead and admit it for one time in ur life u dont know everything about everything around here.
"Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." -Pre
How many times did I say that was exaggeration on my part? And again how many times do I have to say I dont know everything, dont think I know everything and am wrong a lot. Seems like some read everything else except when say that.
Well maybe u should just stop posting then since we are all usually proving u wrong?
"Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." -Pre
I didnt say usually (at least I am admitting it), but a lot and I dont think its me against the whole board because sometimes some agree with me on certain topics. A lot is just a matter of opinion where there is no right or wrong, plus what fun would that be? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
First off
"Wasnt really that dumb, the school could have been just as guilty of doing the same thing. " is why I ripped your point not your other point
You just don't understand the difference in people who are able to administer meds and those who aren't. Your logic is like saying well someone should be able to get whatever drugs they want cuz other people get them legally.
If you really try to make points, exaggeration isn't the way to do it. Dickenson County has random drug testing, do you have any idea why it is random? Because you can't legally test everybody, everybody has the right to an education, even drug addicts as stupid as that seems. Not everybody has the right to play sports or anything like that, those are a privledge, so to get that right you are subject to random drug testing. Now one player could be tested 2-3-4 times, if there name comes up randomly. So yes, someone 'could' be doing drugs and not get tested but someone could also be tested this time and be tested the next time, so there is a risk factor that the athletes or PACE members or cheerleaders or anything like that could be caught. Does it stop the worst of the worst? No I'd say they know how to beat the system just like happens about anywhere, but what it does do is give most high school kids a chance, a built in excuse. You seem to think that most of the people on here either are so far out of school or so far out of the loop, they are clueless about things. When do most kids drink or do drugs? Do they just decide hey I wanna do it or does peer pressure cause it? Be honest, most kids do it because they want to be cool, they want to fit in. Well you give them a built in excuse now, and I know for a FACT that most kids, not all, but most that is all they need. Someone can ask them if they want to do it and they can turn it down, but do it for a 'cool reason' and not just seem square.
You say people don't know because they aren't in the schools, I think that is your problem, you can't view it because you try to speak like this sage voice of reason but still want to be in high school and seem cool to your friends that you're taking up for them. Pick your side and be one or the other. I think most people know that I'll go to bat for the players or coaches to about the end of things, but if one is stupid or does something just wrong, I can admit that. You almost can but then you try to rationalize it, thats the problem with your opinions.
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
I understand the difference, but doesnt mean that a student couldnt go and snort a tylenol or something somewheres if they really wanted to. Doesnt really matter where they get it, the ones who want to abuse something, will.
I dont know much of anything about the drug testings in Dickenson Co. I was really asking if they just randomly did it with the whole team or a certain athlete. From what you say its just a random one that like you said then there would be some that get away with it. The thought of getting in trouble doesnt discourage too many, if it was like that then there would hardly be any problems with any illegal activity anywheres.
I am not saying that parents and teachers dont know anything, but IMO they dont know nowheres as near as much as they think they do. It could be that they dont really want to know or that theres a lot that just goes unseen, I think its both that is why so much goes on in schools. I'm not trying to sound cool to them, I dont really know too many people on here, the ones I do I havent even met. Just looking at all the posts and seemed like most thought different things that didnt really happen. I see the whole point youre trying to make about it. But I'm not going to post anymore on this thread.
You may be the most illogical person in the world lol
A student could go do most anything they want elsewhere, but at the environment, the school environment, they are governed by rules, guess what a student could go get high as a kite, but if they come to school, they can get in trouble. I really don't understand your attempts at argument.
It is random but you know what, there are people who get tested in prisons, or on release programs that beat the system, wizzinator or whatever it was called anybody. Trying to rationalize the ways around anything, doesnt mean you don't enforce it. Guess what there are radar detectors that people use to get around police, that doesnt mean that police just stop trying to catch people.
The concept of trying to give people an escape isn't going to stop everybody, nowhere did I say that. It gives those that might not do it, an escape. I actually can say this, I never touched a drop of booze till I was of legal age. Why did I do that? I just never felt the need, and was able to pretty much always use the excuse of having to go home and driving. I was thin, not much tolerance, etc. Thats fine, I was an exception, because I did have willpower but what about the guy who was going to his friends and staying the night or camping out, what is their excuse? They have none, but if they really don't want to do it, and they play a sport, they can easily say hey man I can't risk it, they test me, and I get busted, I have to go through this sort of rehab type, parents find out, etc.
It's not going to stop everybody, its foolish to think that. You don't think the thought of getting in trouble discourages that many?? If you really, actually think that, you're insane. It doesn't discourage everybody, guess what not everybody wants an excuse or was raised in an environment where they would get in trouble or where their parents even care or that they think anything outside of mass murder is wrong.
How many things wrong would you do if you wasn't afraid of getting caught? Or getting in trouble? Would I constantly fly when I drive, if there wasn't the fear of tickets and me having to pay higher insurance? Would people not shoplift if they didn't think they would end up getting caught? Shoot if you aren't worried about getting in trouble, go find a way to illegally vote a few 100 times for Obama lol
No, you won't reach every kid. You won't stop everyone from giving in, but you will stop more than you think.
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
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